'REAL' and 'NOT REAL' Muslims
Me:
 "Hi Abdul. The October attack was terrible, wasn’t it?”
Abdul:
“Yes, but Hamas are not real Muslims of course.”
Me:
 "You mean, they don’t worship Muhammed?”
Abdul:
“Yes, but real Muslims don’t commit the barbarities that they do.”
Me:
 “Hmmm. Just to be quite clear. They DO worship Muhammed and NO MUSLIM CAN CRITICIZE him. Is that right?”
Abdul:
“Of course.”
Me:
 “OK - so far so good. Now you DO know that in 626 AD Muhammed personally ordered, organised and supervised the decapitation of 700 men of the defeated Qurayza tribe, don’t you?”
Abdul:
“Yes, but he was just punishing traitors.”
Me:
 “So when an army is defeated you can murder all the prisoners, is that it?”
Abdul:
“But they had refused to submit.”
Me:
 “What do you mean?”
Abdul:
“Unbelievers should submit to ISLAM; Allah ordered it.”
Me:
 “Is this the Allah that Muhammed reported having spoken to in a desert cave?”
Abdul:
“Of course.”
Me:
 “Why did Allah speak ONLY to Muhammed? What was so special about him? Allah could have appeared in the village square.”
Abdul:
“It is not for us to question the ways of Allah.”
Me:
 “Let’s get back to this: ‘They’re not real Muslims.’ thing. What about those who committed the atrocities in New York, Spain, France, the UK and elsewhere? They killed THOUSANDS of people. You seem not to call them Muslims, but THEY would call themselves Muslims, wouldn’t they?”
Abdul:
“Yes, but they are fundamentalists.”
Me:
 “So ‘fundamentalists’ aren’t Muslims?”
Abdul:
“No, they’re not real Muslims.”
Me:
 “But Muhammed SURELY was a ‘real’ Muslim. How can there be a more fundamental Muslim than Muhammed, who started all this? AND he was of course a soldier who led an army across Arabia murdering tens of thousands of humans who did not submit to ISLAM. Surely these ‘not real Muslim fundamentalists’ were then and continue today ONLY obeying and copying Muhammed - whom ALL MUSLIMS WORSHIP?. Logically, it IS the fundamentalists who are the ‘real’ Muslims, isn't it?”
Abdul:
SILENCE
Me:
 “If ISIS or HAMAS captured you and you told them they were not real Muslims, what do you think they would do?”
Abdul:
SILENCE .....“Look REAL Muslims don’t murder people. ISLAM is a religion of peace - Cameron and Obama said so.”
Me:
 “Well, they didn’t have members of their family blown up or beheaded, did they? Look Abdul, MUHAMMED KILLED THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. HE was a Muslim, no? And the KORAN calls upon Muslims (real or otherwise) to KILL UNBELIEVERS. That command is repeated OVER ONE HUNDRED TIMES. The entire message of the KORAN is that ISLAM must dominate the world by eliminating all who oppose it. Do you DENY that is the message of the KORAN? Or is the KORAN wrong?”
Abdul:
“The Koran cannot be wrong; it is the word of Allah.”
Me:
 “You mean the apparition in a desert cave?”
Abdul:
"That was God appearing to Muhammed.”
Me:
 “HOW DO YOU KNOW? Muhammed could have been lying, couldn't he? Muslims are ALLOWED to lie, no? Or perhaps he was high on fermented camel urine for all we know?”
Abdul:
“You mustn’t insult Muhammed or the KORAN; you could get yourself killed.”
Me:

“Oh dear - would that be by REAL MUSLIMS or NOT REAL MUSLIMS? I am really confused. Let's see if I've got this right:

  • Those who commit atrocities are not REAL Muslims even though they are doing EXACTLY what Muhammed commanded them to do.
  • REAL Muslims don't like what the NOT-REAL Muslims are doing, but they can't stop them from doing it.
  • The NOT-REAL Muslims will never stop committing atrocities because they believe they were ordered to do so - AND they are following the example of Muhammed, the 'Perfect Human' they all worship.
  • REAL Muslims are therefore tarred with the same brush as NOT-REAL Muslims, but for some reason they refer to REMAIN Muslim even though it is a 'faith' based on murder, pedophilia, rape, slavery, misogyny, homophobia and the negation of Freedom and the HumanSpirit.
  • REAL-Muslims want to be taken seriously and treated with respect, even though their fellow NOT-REAL Muslims regularly commit barbaric atrocities.
  • REAL Muslims could LEAVE ISLAM and become for example Buddhists (never known to murder anyone), but do not do so because:
    1) their parents and ancestors right back to the 7th century were Muslims and they have been brainwashed to follow the same cult and
    2) the official penalty for apostasy (leaving ISLAM) is DEATH.
  • So REAL Muslims stick it out and accept that barbaric atrocities are regularly committed in the name of the 'faith' they worship.
  • All this means that there will NEVER BE PEACE until either ISLAM is wiped out or DOMINATES THE WORLD as commanded by Allah."

"Is that about right, Abdul? Perhaps you could think about this and we'll continue the discussion tomorrow ..... Oh, Please don’t repeat anything I said down at the mosque - you may have some NOT-REAL Muslims down there and I would not like to be decapitated in the street by ANY kind of Muslim, real or otherwise.”