WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT THE EU .......
1 March, 2017 – "The future of Europe should not be hostage to elections, party politics or cries of triumph directed at domestic audiences."
(so much for "the will of the people" ....)
June 2016: from "Comments" in "The Daily Express: " in relation to the EU Referendum:
"It takes a special kind of stupidity to want to vote democratically for an end to democracy."
June 2015 – “Labour has to return to its roots as a party that speaks up for this country – not one that wants to give it away.”
Kate Hoey (Labour MP for Vauxhall, London)
Norman Lamont (Chancellor from 1990 until 1993) – June 2015: “I had the privilege of negotiating Britain’s opt-out from the then new European single currency in 1991. My abiding memory is how clear it was that the euro had nothing to do with economics and was a political project with a dubious rationale.
The creation of the euro has been an error of historic dimensions and done great harm to the EU, which in its first 40 years had brought economic prosperity to the citizens of the Continent. Then the less well-off countries benefited from the lowering of tariffs and the increase in internal trade. After the creation of the euro, however, economic growth slowed markedly. Poorer countries fared worse than the more prosperous countries, like Germany, which benefited from the new, weaker currency.
From the beginning, the rules put in place for the euro, relating to bail-outs, monetary financing and deficit levels, have been ignored. Europe claims to be a rule-based organisation. But however else the eurozone is run, it is not run strictly according to its own rules.”
Christopher Booker: “In joining all those other oldies telling us how they voted in the last EU referendum 40 years ago, I confess that, like many others, I voted “Yes” because I couldn’t support the two most prominent “No” campaigners, the Right-winger Enoch Powell and the Left-winger Tony Benn. Only years later, when I co-authored an exhaustively researched book on the history of the “European project”, did I realise that on this issue at least they had both been absolutely right."
In the decisive debate on the European Communities Bill in 1972, Powell explained yet again that the real purpose of the “project” we were being asked to sign up to was to create a political government for Europe; and that our own elected Parliament had no right to subordinate itself in perpetuity to an unelected supranational body, which could impose on us laws not in our national interest.
When the Bill included a clause empowering ministers to put anything coming from Brussels straight into British law without consulting Parliament, Benn memorably observed that this open-ended surrender of our power to govern ourselves was “a coup d’état by a political class who did not believe in popular sovereignty”. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/11673377/Enoch-Powell-and-Tony-Benn-were-right-on-Europe-it-was-a-great-deception.html
GEMS FROM JUNCKER:
- “We decide on something, leave it lying around and wait and see what happens. If no one kicks up a fuss, because most people don’t understand what has been decided, we continue step by step until there is no turning back," he said of the euro.
- In May 2011, he told a meeting of the federalist European Movement that he often ‘had to lie’ and that eurozone monetary policy should be discussed in ‘secret, dark debates’.
- He also sparked controversy by suggesting that the eurozone economic policy was incompatible with democracy. ‘We all know what to do, we just don’t know how to get re-elected after we’ve done it," Mr Juncker cynically quipped last year.
- Mr Juncker was also closely linked to the EU constitution, before the French referendum on it in 2005 he predicted, correctly, that Europe would ignore any popular rejections.“If it’s a Yes, we will say ‘on we go’, and if it’s a No we will say ‘we continue’,” he said.
- Following the No votes in France and the Netherlands, Mr Juncker claimed that in reality voters had actually supported deeper European integration, triggering accusations that the European elite was in denial over public hostility to the EU. "If we were to add up all the votes of the people who wanted ‘more Europe’ as a yes , then I think we would have had a yes vote," he said.
- 2014 – “Mandelson warns against the ‘LOTTERY’ of giving voters a say on leaving the European Union.” – Peter Mandelscum (parasitic EU toady & British Lord)
- 2012 – “The most puzzling development in politics during the last decade is the apparent determination of Western European leaders to re-create the Soviet Union in Western Europe.” – Mikhail Gorbechev (Gen. Sec of CP, USSR 85-91)
- Nov 2011 – MR. SCHÄUBLE said the German government would propose treaty changes at the summit of European leaders in Brussels on Dec. 9 that would move Europe closer to the centralized fiscal government that the currency zone has lacked.The ultimate goal, Mr. Schäuble says, is a political union with a European president directly elected by the people. “What we’re now doing with the fiscal union, what I’m describing here, is a short-term step for the currency,” Mr. Schäuble said. “In a larger context, naturally we need a political union.” He sees the turmoil as not an obstacle but a necessity. “We can only achieve a political union if we have a crisis,” Mr. Schäuble said.
- 2011 – “This much is true: When we created the euro, it wasn’t possible to create a political union along with it. People weren’t ready for that. But since then, they’ve grown more willing to go in that direction. It’s a process, one that is sometimes laborious and sometimes slow. But it’s important to keep the populations involved.” – Wolfgang Schräuble (German Finance Minister 09->)
- 2011 – “We need to build a United States of Europe with the Commission as government and two chambers: the European Parliament and a “Senate” of Member States.” – Viviane Reding (Vice President of the European Commission)
- 2011 – “You cannot resolve this crisis without a federal eurozone, but you are dealing with historic nation states that are not used to being treated like US states, and it would be democratically unaccountable. So how do you get there?” – Julian Callow (Barclays Capital)
- 2010 – “[Bailouts are] expressly forbidden in the treaties by the famous no-bailout clause. De facto, we have changed the treaty.” – Pierre Lelouche (French Europe minister 09-10)
- 2010 – “Decisions taken by the most democratic institutions in the world are very often wrong.” – Jose-Manuel Barrosso (President of European Commission 2004-2014)
- July 10th, 2007 - EU Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso, rejoicing in the “success” of his Revised Constitution, hailed the EU as “the creation of an Empire”, adding “We have the dimensions of Empire”.
- 2009 – “I have read some of [the Lisbon Treaty] but not all of it.” – Caroline Flint (Minister for Europe 08-09)
- 2008 – “The [Lisbon Treaty] is indeed a tidying-up exercise; it sweeps the rest of our sovereignty under the Brussels carpet.” – Lord Pearson
- 2006 – “If you go through all the structures and features of this emerging European monster you will notice that it more and more resembles the Soviet Union.” – Vladimir Bukovsky (Russian dissident)
- 2005 – “The EU Constitution is the birth certificate of the United States of Europe.” Hans Martin Bury (German Minister for Europe)
- 2005 – “Politicians should have the courage to take decisions against the people's will.” – Klaus Kinkel (German Foreign Minister 92-98)
- 2005 – “The Constitution is the capstone of a European Federal State.” – Guy Verhofstadt (Belgian PM 99-08)
- 2002 – Marta Andreasen, the chief accountant to the EU had this to say:“EU spending is riddled with corruption. Opportunities for fraud are open and are taken advantage of. The most elementary precautions are neither taken nor even contemplated. The reverse is the case. People such as myself, who attempt to bring openness and accountability to the system, are pursued, suspended and dismissed.”
- 2000 - Giuliano Amato was a former prime minister of Italy and became vice chairman of the European Union’s Constitutional Convention, which drew up the the European constitution, which of course was thoroughly rejected by the French and the Dutch referenda, but then rebadged as the so-called Lisbon Treaty and PASSED by Dutch and French national parliaments, BY-PASSING the people.
In the Italian newspaper La Stampa of 13th of July 2000, Amato wrote, “Sovereignty lost on a national level does not pass to any new individual. It is entrusted to a faceless entity, and those in command can neither be identified nor elected. As a matter of fact, the metamorphosis is already here. All we need are a few corrections here and there along with a great deal of cunning. Their place will be taken by a multitude of authorities, each of which will be at the head of different interests. Different interests that possess ambiguous levels of power, by moving the power we are used to, will disappear.”
“In Europe one needs to act as if. As if what was wanted was little, in order to obtain much. As if states were to remain sovereign, you can convince them to concede sovereignty. The commission in Brussels, for example, should act AS IF it were a technical instrument in order to be able to be treated as a government, and so on by disguise and subterfuge.”
- 1999 – “The single market was the theme of the Eighties; the single currency was the theme of the Nineties; we must now face the difficult task of moving towards a single economy, a single political unity.” – Romano Prodi (President of European Commission 99-04)
- 1998 – “The age of pure representative democracy is coming to an end.” – Peter Mandelscum (parasitic EU toady & British Lord)
- 1996 – “I look forward to the day when the Westminster Parliament is just a council chamber in Europe.” – Ken Clarke (British Minister)
- 1996 – “The Europe of Maastricht could only have been created in the absence of democracy” – Claud Cheysson (French Foreign Minister & member of European Commission)
- 1991 – “A European currency will lead to member-nations transferring their sovereignty over financial and wage policies as well as in monetary affairs It is an illusion to think that States can hold on to their autonomy over taxation policies.” – Hans Tietmeyer (Bundesbank President 93-99)
- 1991 - TONY BENN'S 1991 SPEECH ON DEMOCRACY AND THE EU IN THE BRITISH HOUSE OF COMMONS - extract: "Another way would be to have a looser, wider Europe. I have an idea for a
Commonwealth of Europe. I am introducing a bill on the subject. Europe
would be rather like the British Common-wealth. We would work by consent
with people. Or we could accept this ghastly proposal, which is clumsy,
secretive, centralized, bureaucratic and divisive. That is how I regard
the Treaty of Rome. I was born a European and I will die one. But I
have never put my alliance behind the Treaty of Rome. I object to it. I
hate being called an anti-European. How can one be anti-European when
one is born in Europe? It is like saying that one is anti-British if one
does not agree with the Chancellor of the Exchequer."
- 1988 – ”Within ten years 80% of our economic legislation, perhaps even fiscal and social as well would come from the EU.” – Jacques Delors (President of EU Commission 85-95)
- 1987 – “EC Governments should not try to explain the Maastricht Treaty. It is unexplainable. Treaty decisions are far too removed from daily life for people to understand.” – M. Willy de Clercq
- 1983 – “We’ll negotiate withdrawal from the EEC which has drained our natural resources and destroyed jobs.” Tony Blair, in personal election manifestos for Beaconsfield (1982)and Sedgefield (1983).
- 1981 - In 'Arguments for Democracy' (1981) Tony Benn is scathing about the fact that multinationals’ profits “made in one country can be exported to another where perhaps wage rates or taxes are low” (sound familiar today?). He goes on in the same pages to criticise the subjugation of British foreign policy to that of the United States before announcing a page later that "joining the Common Market was “the most formal surrender of British sovereignty and parliamentary democracy that has ever occurred in our history”.
- 1976 – “Public opinion will be led to adopt, without knowing it, the proposals we dare not present to them directly. All the earlier proposals will be in the new text, but will be hidden and diguised.” (on the Lisbon treaty) – Valery Giscard D’Estang (French President 74-81)
- 1970 – “I do not believe that this nation, which has maintained and defended its independence for a thousand years, will now submit to see it merged or lost. Nor did I become a member of our sovereign parliament in order to consent to that sovereignty being abated or transferred.” Enoch Powell, MP : Conservative party conference
- 1966 – “We should frankly recognise this surrender of sovereignty and its purpose.” – Edward Heath (British PM 70-74)
- 1965 – “Parliament must resign itself to becoming a rubber stamp.” – Lord Kilmuir (advising Ted Heath)
- 1962 – “It means the end of a thousand years of history.” – Hugh Gaitskell (British Labour Party Leader 55-63)
- 1952 – “Europe’s nations should be led towards a superstate, without their people understanding what is happening.” – Jean Monnet (President ECSC 52-55)
- 1951 – “The sovereign nations of the past can no longer solve the problems of the present: they cannot ensure their own progress or control their own future. And the Community itself is only a stage on the way to the organised world of tomorrow.” – Jean Monnet (President ECSC 52-55)
- 1950 – “There’s no way Britain could accept that the most vital economic forces of this country should be handed over to an authority that is utterly undemocratic and is responsible to nobody.” (in response to the Schumann Plan) – Clement Attlee (British PM 45-51)
- 1949 – “If you open that Pandora’s box you never know what Trojan ‘orses will jump out.” – Ernest Bevin (British Labour Minister 45-51)